we all might have read the story of two cat monkey in our kinder days and many of us may be reading it to their children now. moral was - when you quarrel someone else gains. let's not allow someone else to gain out of such quarrel.. and try to make it a society we all would be happy and proud of.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:42 PM, garfield walfargo <vrindavan_csc@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Arundhati,Team of 8 or Team of 800 will not make any difference if the team is not well versed with Legal system.Even after collecting the documents and sending out to Advocate to Delhi for verification shows that none of the RWA Executive Body member was competent enough to access the value of papers put forward by Mahagun. Why not expert at first place ? Good intentions merely do not translates into good results.
From: Arundhati Das <arundhati4u2005@yahoo.com>Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2012, 11:40
To: "mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com" <mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Mascot RWA Executive Body-721] Re: [mahagunmascot] Re: Legal Documents of Mahagun Mascot Project
Dear Sandeep,When continuously you are being poked even after putting in ample effort cutting out from your personal time for a joint cause, its natural that one might loose temper and so is the case with the mail you have mentioned. Though, hopefully things would surely get sorted out. But respect can be earned only by respecting other's thought and not by debasing other's efforts. Patience is the call of the hour,,,, The MMRWA is implementing all necessary steps to dig out the authenticity of the documents Mahagun has provided them. So, its just a humble request to all residents as a whole that instead of continuously alleging just wait for the team to do their bit and everybody would be intimated soon regarding any progress that comes our way.Thanks and regardsArundhatiFrom: Sandeep Sharma <sandeep_engg1@yahoo.co.in>
To: "mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com" <mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Mascot RWA Executive Body-721] Re: [mahagunmascot] Re: Legal Documents of Mahagun Mascot Project
Exactly my point Arundhati .. So I said below , very clearly , that RWA is doing amazing job ( without Mahesh inputs as well ..). My only point was with childish banter on name calling and threatening tones ( enough is enough stuff ) n all ..I am all for the good work done by team already ... All support to that ..!!From: Arundhati Das <arundhati4u2005@yahoo.com>
To: "mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com" <mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2012 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Mascot RWA Executive Body-721] Re: [mahagunmascot] Re: Legal Documents of Mahagun Mascot Project
Voicing one's opinion is not wrong but then voicing one's mind also should be done by maintaining a level of dignity. If a person has fought alone and won that doesn't mean that he has the right to put down somebody else's joint efforts. If a person is knowledgeable enough about legal matters, he should also realize that in a team of multiple members, some might also have at least some idea on legal matters and would take steps accordingly.MMRWA never mentioned that they won't show the legal papers it is only that they are bound by words given to the Mahagun authorities and are ready to show the papers individually to every resident who asks for. Moreover they would also duly take the opinion of some legal body to detect whether the documents bear the legal promises as claimed. Still there are regular accusations and counter accusations being hurled.Where would such behaviors lead us to? It is better to undertake one's own responsibility honestly rather than pointing at the flaws of each other. The only intention should be to maintain peace and enjoy the stay as a big Mascotian family as such childish cockfight only leads to complications and does no good. So, please join the regular meetings which are called and discuss the points and seek solutions together.ArundhatiFrom: Sandeep Sharma <sandeep_engg1@yahoo.co.in>
To: "mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com" <mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Mascot RWA Executive Body-721] Re: [mahagunmascot] Re: Legal Documents of Mahagun Mascot Project
Almost all ganging up on one man ..!! For what - Voicing his opinions for something , he had fought hard and make us aware for all that is going now ..makes me run down the ledge ..Instead of lauding his efforts and appreciating his single handed fight against system and try and seek what best we can get out of him , we typically outcast him for speaking his mind. ( As if all others , are speaking in a most civilized way ..!! .) Anyways , if Mahesh is not wiling to come up and help and let the way it be..!!Probably what he is alarming us is something he feels and we can ignore him but for sure WE cannot threaten him .RWA is doing amazing job anyways and I don't see the need of mud slinging .If the documents are real , latest and correct then we have almost nothing to afraid of .Keep up the good work Raju ji and let's take Mahesh knowledge in account and seek his opinion.( only if he wants to ) else you are still doing great .-SandeepFrom: Deepak Sharma <gsdeepaksh@gmail.com>
To: mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Mascot RWA Executive Body-721] Re: [mahagunmascot] Re: Legal Documents of Mahagun Mascot ProjectNothing to do with the topic but shellfish is not a fish. Jokes apart, all that we write on these mail chains is publicly searchable so we should restrain ourselves from accusations. Raju and team is doing a good job. Mahesh has also done a good job in getting the Mahagun straight. So lets not fight as we all have to live as good neighbors.What Mahesh is saying also seems logical and we should not reject it outright. Regards, Deepak Sharma.--On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Mahesh Narayanan <mahesh1283@yahoo.com> wrote:Learn to spell first. Shellfish is a fish, the word you are looking for is selfish. There is no need to yell at me. I know that you want get your flat up on rent badly but that won't change things as they are.
From: Pathak Sujoy <pathak.sujoy@gmail.com>
To: mascotrwa-eb@googlegroups.com; mahesh1283@yahoo.com
Cc: "mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com" <mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com>; "mascotrwa@googlegroups.com" <mascotrwa@googlegroups.com>Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Mascot RWA Executive Body-721] Re: [mahagunmascot] Re: Legal Documents of Mahagun Mascot ProjectOn Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Pathak Sujoy <pathak.sujoy@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Mahesh,Enough is Enough....I am not clear about your intention, I do not know what is your intention by putting such statement in the group. When you can fight for your single house in Mahagun Mascot and win so much money...Builder would have not even bother to hear anything if at all this project is un-authorized. Leave all these apart, we all are together, all the Mascotian are together and in case of any worse situation we will be a force and will fight against all who will come in our way. So stop worrying about us....keep you inner and shellfish strength within your self so that you can fight for yourself.ALL THE BEST....Anyway we have enough evidences, need not need your advice.Thanks and Regards,Sujoy...A RESIDENT OF MAHAGUM MASCOT....AND REMENBER WE WILL BE FORCE IN SITUATIONS.On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Mahesh Narayanan <mahesh1283@yahoo.com> wrote:Here is one more analogy2G licenses are auctioned and sanctioned. Companies purchased and setup business. Fraud and auctioning against the bye-laws revealed. Supreme Court Cancels all 2G licenses. Foreign companies like Telenor and Etisalat lose the money spent in setting up business which runs into billions of dollars.I guess the only thing that is relevant is weather the sanctions were given in compliance or in violation of the bye-laws. In this case it has been held by the UP State Government that the sanction has been given in violation of the bye-laws and hence they have been rightly canceled.
From: Sameer Sachdeva <samsachdeva@yahoo.com>
To: mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com; "mascotrwa-eb@googlegroups.com" <mascotrwa-eb@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "mascotrwa@googlegroups.com" <mascotrwa@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 11:19 AMSubject: Re: [Mascot RWA Executive Body-704] Re: [mahagunmascot] Re: Legal Documents of Mahagun Mascot Project
From: Mahesh Narayanan <mahesh1283@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Mascot RWA Executive Body-704] Re: [mahagunmascot] Re: Legal Documents of Mahagun Mascot Project
To: "mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com" <mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com>, "mascotrwa-eb@googlegroups.com" <mascotrwa-eb@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "mascotrwa@googlegroups.com" <mascotrwa@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 6:48 AM
Raju, I guess what matters is the Truth and not anyone's sentiments. The point I am trying to make is that the "2 Large Maps" you are holding are no longer valid. They have been canceled. Once upon a time they were valid documents But today they are not. After the investigation conducted by the UP State Government it was found that the maps were sanctioned in violation of the bye-laws and rules governing building construction and also that the sanctions were result of misrepresentation and fraud. Resultantly the Government of Uttar Pradesh canceled the said sanctions. So the maps that you hold in your hand are invalid and useless.Let me explain using an analogy. Imagine you booked a rail ticket using IRCTC website. You took the print out of the e-ticket and holding it in your hand. But later you canceled the ticket you booked. So now you have a printout of a ticket that is no longer valid. The printout of the ticket does not say that it is invalid but it is. Same applies to the sanctions also. Please note that the FIRE NOC is also not valid because it is also based on the canceled sanction. FIRE NOC was taken without disclosing to the Chief Fire Officer that the maps have been canceled vide state government order dated 14.02.2012.There is risk to life safety of residents which should have been disclosed but has been concealed by Mahagun and the GDA. The residents deserve to know the truth.From: Mahagun Mascot RWA <rajubanka@gmail.com>
To: mascotrwa-eb@googlegroups.com
Cc: "mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com" <mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com>; "mascotrwa@googlegroups.com" <mascotrwa@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Mascot RWA Executive Body-704] Re: [mahagunmascot] Re: Legal Documents of Mahagun Mascot Project
Dear Mahesh,This is just to inform you that approx. The 600 flat owners have already taken the possession, got registration and living in the flat in Mascot society and these concerns matters for these residents as well. We, as a RWA, always enquire about any concern which is affecting the entire residents of the Mahagun Mascot society. Moreover, we, the MMRWA Office Bearers are not like a baby who can't understand what is correct and what is wrong.However, we don't force anyone to believe on our mails or documents but we, a team of 8 MMRWA Executive Members saw these papers and these papers are with us now and we are ready to show it to any resident who have flats in Mahagun Mascot or have booked the flats there.In past, I already requested you to please come in the General Body Meeting (GBM) alongwith other documents so that we can understand your points as well but you never contacted MMRWA and never shown your interest for the same and now you are telling 1000+ families that the entire project is illigal which is not good. Requesting you to please don't write in such style which can cause a problem for all the residents. We know you already have a flat here and your are playing with the legal papers from last few years but please understand the sentiments of the resident as well.Note: For GDA Notice dated 19th May 2012 (whihc you shared in the appended mail) - We are already going to file RTI in GDA to get more clarification on this Project Layout and Map so that we will have each and everything in Black and White and on paper.Let me know if you have any concern.Regards,Raj Kumar RajuPresident, Mahagun Mascot RWA
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Mahesh Narayanan <mahesh1283@yahoo.com> wrote:Raju, What legal issues do you forsee? I am unable to understand. If these documents are genuine and are not a fruit of forgery then there should be no problem in sharing them online. Also as per my information all the sanctioned maps of Mahagun Mascot have been canceled by GDA vide its order dated 19.05.2012. A copy of the letter is available on my website http://mahagunmascot.blogspot.in/2012/06/mahagun-mascot-sanction-plans-cancelled.html. So if you are claiming that everything is legal then there must have been another order passed by GDA after 19.05.2012 negating its earlier order. Can you pls share this order online? And also tell us why you think there is a 'legal issue' in sharing them online.
From: Mahagun Mascot RWA <rajubanka@gmail.com>To: mascotrwa@googlegroups.com; Mahagun Mascot <mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com> Cc: mascotrwa-eb@googlegroups.comSent: Sunday, 8 July 2012 11:29 PMSubject: [mahagunmascot] Re: Legal Documents of Mahagun Mascot ProjectDear Mascotian,Today 8 representatives from MMRWA visited at Mahagun office, A-19, Sec-63 (Noida) and discussed on the legal documents with Mr. S. C. Sharma, Needhi, Manoj Saxena and Manish Kumar. And finally we collected the copy of the entire documents which we requested in past. As per the these documents, nothing is illegal in Mahagun Mascot Project but we going to verify it with some Legal Expert in next 3-4 days and will share the status with all of you.In the meanwhile, if anyone wanted to see these papers, they can contact me and I will show it to you. It has 30 pages and we agreed for not sharing it online due to legal issue. Please let me know if you have any question.Note: We will share the complete Minutes of Meetings (MoM) of this discussion tomorrow. So please stay tuned!!!Regards,Raj Kumar RajuPresident, Mahagun Mascot RWA
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:34 PM, RAJ KUMAR RAJU <rajubanka@gmail.com> wrote:Dear Mascotians,I am happy to inform you that we have a very good result here after publishing this news in the daily Newspaper. As a response of this news, I got a call from Mr. S. C. Sharma (AVP-Mahagun India Pvt. Ltd.) today around 5 PM and he assured me to provide these 11 Legal Documents to MMRWA representative on 8th July 2012 (Sunday). He told me that the entire operational area is approved and nothing is illegal in Mascot project and he was out of station and that is why Mahagun was not able to provide these documents.So it is a big relief for us. I along with few other MMRWA representative will be going to attend the meeting on coming Sunday (8th July 2012) to collect the Legal Approval Papers. I will keep you posted with the status soon. Stay tuned!!!Regards,Raj Kumar RajuPresident, Mahagun Mascot RWA----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Gaurav Gupta <gauravdream@gmail.com> wrote:Thank you Raju to letting us know that you have already taken the proactive action with Credai. :)On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:24 PM, RAJ KUMAR RAJU <rajubanka@gmail.com> wrote:Dear Gaurav,For this issue (Legal Documents), we already copied CREDIA - NCR and got response as well and then I filled the complaint by online as well. Please look at the attached mail for for the same. Hope it will answer your question.-----------------Here is the reply of the registry by mail-----------------------Dear SirThis is in reference to your attached complaint.You are requested to kindly note that in case you also wish to lodge the complaint at complaints portal of CREDAI NCR then please do that at the following link:With warm regardsSecretariat, CREDAI NCRRegards,Raj Kumar RajuPresident, MMRWA
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Gaurav Gupta <gauravdream@gmail.com> wrote:I also agree with Hemant, we should raised this concern in the media. Even I want to make it more aggressively. Note that when Mahesh Ji file the (business complex issue) case and when we got the final result in 2012. Have we that much time in hand to stay in such situations?Second, any business man more worried about the new customer/prospect, once this issue in Media then Mahangun has to listen our voice if they want to save their business interest.Third, If we put such case in Media then initial scanning, talking to different Govt departments, Builder guys and other peoples .. Media persons will do that their own.. who else have so much time to do it for us..One more thing, now a days every builder is now saying that he is Credai member.. Not sure how much it is trustworthy? Mahagun is also member of this http://credaincr.org/existingmember.php Should we not raise our concern there too?? Please share your opinion on it.Best Regards,Gaurav Gupta064- ValenciaOn Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Pathak Sujoy <pathak.sujoy@gmail.com> wrote:Rightly Said Hemant,We are working on that direction only with majority residents consents.Thanks & Regards,Sujoy.On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Singh, Hemant <hemant.singh@igl.co.in> wrote:Dear presidentI am not agree with mr gaurav, our rwa should think and work for residents only not for investors those who are just waiting for rise in price.ThanksFrom: mascotrwa@googlegroups.com [mailto:mascotrwa@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RAJ KUMAR RAJU
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 2:00 PM
To: mascotrwa-eb@googlegroups.com
Cc: mascotrwa@googlegroups.com; Mahagun Mascot
Subject: Re: [Mascot RWA Executive Body-587] Re: [RWA-Mascot:993] RE: [The Nest-Crossings Republik- Residents] http://www.amarujala.com/city/Ghaziabad/Ghaziabad-...Dear Gaurav,Thanks for your mail. I am requesting you to please come into the GBM (General Body Meeting) which will be on coming Sunday (hopefully) and give your clarification how it is harmful for our society.350+ families are living in the Mascot Society and coming in the meeting and they advised to do this and now you are saying that it is harmful. You are most welcome to come with your pros/cons.I also wanted to inform you all that whenever we take any action, first we discuss it with Executive Body, then with General Body (Resident) and then take the action accordingly. I always try to inform you all with the latest happening via group mail (Yahoo/Google) or social networking site (Facebook/Orkut).Regards,Raj Kumar RajuOn Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Gaurav Gupta <gauravg.ims@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Raju,I think that will be harmful for our society if we publish theseissues in media then everyone will become aware of the internal issuesof mahagun and direct effect come to the rate of mahugn mascotproperty, so according to me we should handle these issues internallyand we should file a case in consumer forum.On 7/2/12, Raj Kumar Raju <rajubanka@gmail.com> wrote:> After our registered post, we have not received any reply or call on this so> now trying to send the same mail to different media people so that it will> be published in various media. Please let me know if you think it will be> helpful or harmful for us.>> Regards,> Raj Kumar Raju> Crossings Republik Township> (Ghaziabad)> Sent from my iPad>> On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:27 AM, "Deb, Saikat" <saikat.deb@philips.com> wrote:>>> Dear Raju,>>>> I think this was the rt approach.>>>> Mahagun will now be aware that things are going into public against them.>>>>>>>> All this activities will help us in fighting a case against them if>> required.>>>>>>>> ** we can also ask Saket to help us in providing this information in media>> – HT if possible.>>>>>>>> Regards>>>> Saikat>>>>>>>> From: Raj Kumar Raju [mailto:notification+kr4myk5r5qnx@facebookmail.com]>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 10:19 AM>> To: The Nest-Crossings Republik- Residents>> Subject: [The Nest-Crossings Republik- Residents]>> http://www.amarujala.com/city/Ghaziabad/Ghaziabad-...>>>>>>>> Raj Kumar Raju posted in The Nest-Crossings Republik- Residents>>>>>>>> Raj Kumar Raju>>>> 10:19am Jul 2>>>> http://www.amarujala.com/city/Ghaziabad/Ghaziabad-17841-111.html>>>>>>>> Latest Ghaziabad News, Breaking News Ghaziabad, News Headlines>> -Ghaziabad- Amar Ujala>>>> http://www.amarujala.com/>>>>>> View Post on Facebook · Edit Email Settings · Reply to this email to add a>> comment.>>>>>>>>>> The information contained in this message may be confidential and legally>> protected under applicable law. The message is intended solely for the>> addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby>> notified that any use, forwarding, dissemination, or reproduction of this>> message is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the>> intended recipient, please contact the sender by return e-mail and destroy>> all copies of the original message.>--
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